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From: <withheld>@ihug.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Report Card
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009 7:43 pm

Right ... The season is over and let the post mortems begin. This is my report card for the season:

Coaches:
I think they have the right idea. Unfortunately, they have inherited a number of dud players from the previous regime. They have taken the easy option in my opinion with these players. by this, I mean, being from out of town it was easier to pick the players that have failed us in the past 2 seasons, than to go to all the club games and pick our "best players". I think the likes of Craig Dowd will in turn make very good coach and I have no problems keeping them on for next year, but they have to look deep into their selection policy and pick the BEST players available not the ones who have had more TV time. Even ask our top club coaches for advice if need to.

Forwards:
If there was any bright light this year, it must be said all in all, our forwards did their jobs. Chamberlain was outstanding upon his arrival, King also finished off the season with some very strong performances. Ma'afu also turned up every week and ran his guts out. Get rid of the likes of Chris Smith, who would benefit us more in the crowd with his expert clapping skills at each scrum or breakdown. For a guy that came into this team with huge raps, he was a huge disappointment ... and I'm glad the coaches saw that too and dumped his ass onto the bench ... everyone else did their jobs without any "star" performances.

Backs:
What made us into a laughingstock of the ANC. As I have previously stated, to have a 2nd 5 playing 1st 5, our best 2nd 5 playing on the wing, our best full back playing centre and a bench warmer starting consistently at fullback is why our backs sucked!! We have very notable names there ... The Tuitivake brothers, The Pisi brothers, Wulf, Smylie all very notable names who looked like a bunch of muppets and very underwhelming. What was frustrating was, that they would turn up against the big teams ...ie Canterbury, Auckland, BOP and looked like stars. Along comes, Tasman, Northland, Manuwatu, Otago ... and they make us look like a bunch of ballet dancers. Mike Harris, must be given some credit and will be a good player for the future if he can be mentored in the right way.

Overall, they were heart breakers. They got our hopes up when they play like legends against the likes of Canterbury only to turn up the next 4 weeks and get spanked by cellar dwellers only to win again making us think "this is the turning point" ... only to be raped in the bottom again for the following 4 weeks. I find it uneasy to see the likes of Northland, Manuwatu and Tasman shafted into the Heartland Cup only to reflect on the spankings they dished us. To speak honestly, to avoid any embarrassment, we should be putting our hands up and volunteering ourselves down there. To see them shafted is like the times we were kids when our siblings get the hidings of their lives for something I/you did wrong ... sure you breathe a sigh of relief it wasn't you at the end of the cricket bat or what ever took our parents fancy but really??? It's hard to look them in the eye for a long time afterwards.

Please, for next year can we bring back or buy some experienced players to help and mould our "talented" players.

Thanks
JD


From: <withheld>@yahoo.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: NH Rugby etc
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009 12:06 pm

Gedday guys. Absolutely love the website and the work you are doing. It's refreshing to have some honesty, and while it is all behind a nom de plume, who cares! While I don't agree with everything you guys say, what a faaarkin boring place this world would be if we all agreed aye?

One big point I want to raise is this. The future of North Harbour and a major reason we may not be as succesful as we would like and why we havent been in the past is ... Schools rugby. Every major province has a powerhouse school within it dont they. These schools attract and churn out first class rugby players. Auckland has Grammar, Kelston Boys and now Mount Albert Grammar consistently producing talent. Hamilton Boys High have just won the National 1st XV title. The likes of Palmerston North Boys, Christchurch Boys, Christs, Te Aute, New Plymouth Boys, Wesley, Marlborough Boys, Otago Boys, St Patricks, St Bedes and Rotorua Boys all evoke memories of great days and great games and more importantly, great players and coaches.

Here in North Harbour we have ... Rosmini? Massey High? Westlake? In the current NZ Schools side we have ONE PLAYER, Gareth Anscombe from Rosmini, and his old man coaches the scum! In fact in the extended squad of 52 players for the NZ Schools side there was only one other player, a bloke Ray Niuia from Massey. And has there been a Harbour school that has EVER competed succesfully on the National stage?

North Harbour needs to get 2 people out of their cushy jobs in the Union and put them into a school each, with the directive to turn that school into a National Rugby powerhouse, and give them license to rape and pillage all the best talent in the country to achieve their goal! How many Rugby Development officers/managers etc do we have being employed by the Union?

Ok thats enough from me for now.

Cheers and Beers
'Mike'


From: <withheld>@gmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: go f**k ur selves u fat c*nts.
Date: Fri, October 2, 2009 12:33 am

To the unofficial harbour website,

Get a life. Your probably a sad group of old fat men sitting in yourhouses on your computers writing trivial shit about people. Heres a suggestion get a f**king hobby,go travelling or you could all meet up and bum f**k each other and cry about harbour should have won. you go on about all these boys with " last names" and how useless they all are at least they have something going for them and not just a website on a provincial rugby team you tragic arssholes. Who cares if mcphee has a beard? or if you think harris is shit, who the f**k are you? what have u achieved ? a f**king website? go stroke each other you sad pricks.

Heres a hint be f**king careful what you write about people you wouldnt want to breach any privacy laws and be found out you loser c*nts

Dave

<Editor: Read MacDaddy's analysis of this exquisite prose here>.


From: <withheld>@gmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: What a Shambles!!!!
Date: Thu, October 1, 2009 9:59 pm

What a mess, Harbour is gone, Craig Dowd, Jeff Wilson, Brett Holister, Ian Jones and Old man Mayhew should all fall on there swords, What a right mess they have orchastrated!!!! These guys aren¹t coaches arse¹s!!!! All Blacks getting jobs for All Blacks, it doesn¹t work, I would suggest both Craig and Jeff go back and coach 1st XV and club rugby and learn how real hard working coaches do it, and while we¹re at it perhaps half the staff in at Harbour headquarters should go with them, we¹ve got 30 people doing the job of 20 and poorly at that, we have a hot headed CEO ,and yelling matches left right and centre in there , a very unhappy and untidy camp.

Ex marketing manager Brett Holister was most insightful when in admittting he and the union are out of there depth, brought in Laurie Mains this week, well that really worked, hmmm another Tui add I would suggest. YEAH RIGHT!!!!!

On top of this we have Brett and selected few running there mouths off to any paper or media person who¹ll listen, about how the Union is growing, we can make statistics say anything, can¹t we, the reality is senior rugby is in decline and has been for some time, less U19, U21, senior 2nd & 1st and Premier sides in the competition.

Hard questions need to be asked and hard decisions need to be made, we might not like it and it¹ll definitly hurt, but to regain the lustre of the Thorburn and Shelford years, this has to be done.

This will obviously upset a few of the old guard as it will put paid to there donut trips and World Cup tickets that there all hanging round for, as I say, it will be painful for all, but to move forward must be done!

Yours
Hard working volunteer
(Who's sick of being shafted by paid administrators who are entrusted with our proud Union)


From: <withheld>@gmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Sort it out.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009 9:53 pm

I personally am a Harbour supporter from way back and even I see the teams extremely weak efforts in this years Air New Zealand Cup. However people, give them a break, they are a young team with a lot of talent. I have watched the Harbour team go through a rather perpetual state of ups and downs over the past 10 years and they will come right. The young men in the team such as Ben Botica, Ken Pisi and Jack Mcphee are excellent rugby players that if anything, are being let down by sloppy forward play, <Editor: You've got to be joking! Have you been to a game at all this season?> not a lack of skill.

In regards to the responses on the site, Miarangi Murray sounds like a washed up 'has been' or more likely 'never was' who has nothing better to do then bag on men with ten times as much talent going for them as he does. Why hate on excellent players like McPhee when it is the team at wrong not one individual player, who by the way has an unbelievable skill set. You call yourself a Harbour rugby supporter, I think Harbour rugby would be better of without 'fans' like you. <Editor: Without fans like us the stadium would be completely empty champ! Being a fan doesn't mean you can't ask the hard questions>

GO HARBOUR! keep your head up

Miarangi Murray, get a life you A class arsehole.

Cheers
Ben


From: Anon@<withheld>.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Scott Uren
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009 9:24 am

I think Scott Uren played for Northland, then went overseas and played in Portugal and Northern Ireland.

This season I believe he was with Auckland Marist but I hear he may have moved over to Harbour Marist.

<Editor: Further investigation confirms Scott Uren spent a year with the Northland Rugby team followed by spells as a professional rugby player in Portugal and Northern Ireland and then a position as a strength and conditioning coach in Belfast>.

 


From: Colin@<withheld>.co.uk
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: i've said it before and i'll say it again
Date: Tue, September 22, 2009 2:16 am

We beat the Scum twice in 1995. one being the 12-11 "Auckland couldn't kick a droppie if the match depended on it" match during the NPC, but the other being the preseason match played over 4 quarters at Auckland Domain <Editor: was it played at the Domain or at Western Springs? Or was that the previous year>. The weekend's glory was therefore the 7th win, not the 6th, and the 8th if you count 9-9 at the Wa in '89 (which we should).

That discrepancy in memories aside, how good is it to score last and stuff the Auks?! doesn't matter if we get relegated, 2009 goes down as a good one now. Auckland and Canterbury in one year - doesn't happen often...

Colin

<Editor: Colin, we'll have to agree to disagree ... pre Season form counts for zip, only competition games matter>


From: <withheld>@yahoo.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Rusty Mail
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009 12:36 am

Before I even start this rant I'm going to get it out in the open that I'm involved with the Glenfield club so I'm going to have a bias to my opinion here. Take what I say as you will. I'm pretty sure that my club of choice is going to be used against me here but those of you who do can stick it, I'm still a passionate Harbour supporter.

I've sat back the last few weeks and read the lunatic rantings of Mairangi Murray speaking about going on a yeti hunt, killing Jack McPhee and sticking him on display in Te Papa. Posts like these are pure base tripe, they're not funny and they're unnecessary. With this in mind I'm going to go in to bat for dear old Jack. It helps that this mail has arrived fresh off Jack having a huge game off the bench against the scum. With regards to him not being able to kick off both feet what you say is completely unfounded. He is right footed, last season he had a right ankle sprain, played injured and could only kick exclusively off his left foot because his right foot was in too much pain to do so. This in turn has made him a lot more complete off both feet this year. I agree that he has made a fair few aimless kicks (particularly against Canterbury) but which of our kickers hasn't in this team? He has consistantly carved off 50-60m in his clearance kicks which none of our other outside backs can do. I think there can be no arguing that out of our backs no one is running at the line harder than he is at the moment. His defence hasn't been that bad this year as well. I'd take Murray up on that challenge to count all of the missed tackles if there was a way of getting hold of all our footage this year. Is there a true blue, red blooded Harbour fan that wasn't pelvic thrusting in the direction of every scum supporter in the ASB stand after that huge hit Jack put on that scum winger today? <Editor: it certainly got me up out of my overpriced seat> Finally, his beard is magnificent and his caveman hairdo I prefer to the homo hawks, rats tails and mullets that run rife through New Zealand rugby sides. Murray, with you coming from Mairangi Bay we're from different sides of the tracks so I can't relate to your need for rugby players to be prepped up all nice for a game of rugby.

OK, I'm going to put my Rust coloured glasses to the side now and just go off about how awesome it was to be there and watch our boys put the scum to the sword. Sitting in the stands at Frankenstein Stadium it was apparent to me that Harbour supporters are pretty vocal on the proviso that we actually believe our team can win the game. Once we finally got in front I swear Harbour supporters in the stands started popping up from everywhere. I seriously felt that I was pretty much the only one supporting us until that point. I'm proposing that we go all out for our boys from here on in. We managed to really make some noise in that last 10 mins of todays game. If we can do that at an open aired stadium, we must be capable of really raising the roof back home at the Stadium of Echoes.

Our boys are capable of these performances week in, week out. It's a matter of confidence and belief for these guys. I agree with the sentiments that we're not far off being a force at this level. I feel that one of our bigger problems comes from our decision making between 8, 9, 10 at the base of rucks/scrums and the combination between first five and second five is not working. Considering that our "strike" attackers are wearing the 13, 14 and 15 jumpers it would be nice if whoever is playing in first and second five could actually run hard at the line and draw the defences away from our very talented outside backs. Even the try that we scored against the scum featured a botched distribution of the ball between Harris and Mailei. I've been really impressed with how our forward pack has performed, particularly in the contact zone. If they could actually come up with something better than the one out running from the ruck and pick and go's when we're in the opposition 22 I'd be a lot more impressed.

But I'm out. GO HARBOUR! GO THE RUST!

Rusty

PS - Who the hell is Scott Uren? <Editor: that my friend is a very good question. >


From: <withheld>@hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Thoughts on Harbour
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009 11:30 am

Team,

I have been scratching around searching just to find the Harbour team for the dorkland game. Thanks for providing that. I like that the website doesn't give a toss about PC crap. The Harbour stakeholders could save themselves some money by making the team and contributors at this website - the Board, coaches and mangers for next season.

A few thoughts on Harbour:

I attended Harbours first game in 85 ! and remember the look on Buck Shelfords face. He would run through a brick wall to insure Harbour won and build a reputation for being brutally hard. I am sure they used to get more people at Onewa Domain for games.

The reality is rugby is your sole reason for living, in the likes of Southland and Bay of Plenty. Hence the determination to succeed with limited resources.

The backline Harbour has is all about quick ball, so don't #### around with one off runners and holding it in the back of rucks and kicking it all the time. The more you keep it in hand the more confidence u build, the more off-loads happen, the more tired the defenders get and the more entertaining it is for the fans regardless if they lose the game.

Mike B


From: <withheld>@ihug.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject:

Date: Thu, September 17, 2009 10:56 pm

Hello once again guys....

Well I find it very amusing to read Useless Mcphee's mother writing in under the Alias of "<name withheld>"... Face it... Your son wouldn't make a 3rd XV team at Kelston Boys even after 6 players were suspended from the 1st XV..

Anyway back on point... I think Chris "hand clap/back slapping" Smith summed up my point when at the after match interview with Ian Smith after the game against Southland....and after wiping the tears from his face he proceeded to say the following "....I dont know whats going on, we were the better team.... the stats will show that.. I am stunned to know why we aren't winning.." etc.. Thank goodness Ian Smith came back with "well I guess the stat of 5 tries to 1 against you is one stat that didn't go your way..."

Come on people stop molly coddling these guys telling them that they are only 1 game away from turning things around!! NOTHING in the union/team will change unless these players are forced to take responsibility for they lackluster performances... They obviously keep telling themselves how good they are and not taking a long hard look at how s#%t they are!!!! (McPhee's mother or should I say "<name withheld>" is my case and point).

Ok we are what we are and useless muppets are what we got to work with, but in the words of Dr Phil, "one will never change something they first dont acknowledge"... so once they acknowledge that most of the players in the team dont meet the standard for this grade and you're not as good as you think you are.. then we can start working on things to improve!! but as long as the likes of Chris smith keep telling themselves that they are the best thing since sliced bread then we will never get off the bottom of the table and we will have to learn the hard way in the Amateur world that is Heartland Cup... but then again, that is what some of the players need, to show they are not as good as they think.

Peeeaaaccceeee
JD

P.S. By the way.. yes I am an loyal and avid supporter.. but we have to be serious and stop talking the PC Bull s#%t and say it like it is to turn things around.


<Editor: Note no effort has been made to address the "unique" spelling & grammar in the e-mail below)

From: <withheld>@gmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Whats Your God Damn Issuse
Date: Thu, September 17, 2009 11:23 am

You say your harbour fans!! Your a joke is what your are. Mocking the team with the Simpson's bull shit, where is the positive feed back and encouragement. I can't say I'm happy with the teams performance this season either but to pick on individual players and insult them is disgusting. What happens when they read this. That Jack Mcphee scenario has to stop right now, who cares hes got a beard and its a beauty, your just jealous you can't grow one. Hes a total asset to the club, excellent under high ball, can kick fifty plus meters with both feet and is extremely enjoyable to watch in broken play, he's competent at 1st 5, wing and fullback, has the ability to make big and crucial tackles and can break through them on attack as well. He hasn't made anymore mistakes than the rest of the team, even mcallister had a shocker when he played he was useless. If anyone should be dropped its the most over rated player in the country Michael Harris who used to be a prop in Junior rugby and by the way he plays should still be one.

To Mairangi Murray I'm going to get my gun and blow your tiny nuts off your worthless washed up piece off S*^t, you have know idea what you are on about.

Look Forward to getting a reply

From
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From: <withheld>@yahoo.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Face the Facts
Date: Tue, September 15, 2009 10:16 pm

Face the facts.

The "Emperor has no clothes."

Why haven't more rugby people been more vocal in stating the plianly obvious - Dowd & Wilson can't coach.

There - now it's been said, can someone now fix the situation so we Harbour Rugby fans can move on. This years team is vastly superior to the one that Pivac had last year, & yet is performing worse - go figure!!

Pivac had to put out a team with no Afeaki, no Reid, no McAlister, no Wulf, no Boric & still got better results than these two "coaches" (& I use that term loosely).

This year's team actually wins ball (has often been a problem in Harbour's history) & has ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what to do with it - & this from a team built on the likes of Botica, Little, Bunce, Rush, Ellis, Feeney, Pierce, Tipoki, Osborne etc etc.

Maybe that's what happens when you select coaches with no affiliation to the area.

Of course none of this is actually Dowd & Wilson's fault - they didn't pick themeselves for the job that they were obviously unqualifed for - that blame lies fairly & squarely on that score with the Board.

Or even more specifically with those Board members who sat on the selection commitee - RESIGN.

Even more Severely Disgruntled Harbour Boy


From: <withheld>@gmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: coaching 101
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009 10:56 am

HARBOUR RUGBY:

Firstly love the website....some times you need the hard questions to be asked!!! I think the board should also be put on the hook....Laurie *Mains was involved and DOWD & WILSON were not his first choice???? The question is why , who , what were they thinking????*

After watching Craig running a training session before the HB game...the first time I've seen a coach putting players into training bibs 30 minutes before a game?????is it the players or the game plan

This story said it all !! !! !!

*The odd couple: Dowd & Wilson
*By MARC HINTON - Sunday Star Times

"The test of any team is when times get tough," cautions Wilson. "At some point in the future it's going to get hard, and I'm certain Craig and I will work harder together and learn the lessons together as well. We're not perfect, we're going to make errors.

"Craig and I are under no illusions. We are learning our trade. But we think, with what we know already and the experiences we've had, we can build and improve these players and hopefully they can help us become better coaches."

Dowd is also going in with eyes wide open. He started his coaching under the great Ian McGeechan; he was first tutored by Graham Henry way back in 1989. "And he'd be the first to admit he's probably still learning a few things. It's not something you pick up overnight. As a coach you're thrown in the deep end and you sink or swim."

Dowd brings a prop's earthy take to the scenario. "We're going to have such a spotlight put on us, and we can't get away from that. There's always that comment that good players don't make good coaches, but that's a cliche.

"We've both got a clear understanding of how we want to play it," says Dowd. "If we can achieve consistency, if we can be competitive then absolutely who knows what we can achieve. These are exciting times."

Cheers
Alan


From: <withheld>@ihug.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject:
Date: Sun, September 6, 2009 7:15 pm

The main issue with this harbour side is that the same players who screw it up week in and week out, are still been picked. Wayne pivac blew it when he got rid off all the experience players and bought in little boys to play a mans game. when dowd and wilson came in they said that they were going to change alot of things in the union and just like everyone else I beleaved them But yet does anyone else notice that the same players that screwed it up 2 years ago are still been picked? Are they really the best players in the union ? Mabe the coaching staff and selectors need to drop the players who continueally screw the games up and bring in the players who are willing to die for the team. The only thing we have in the forwards is a bunch off clapping clowns. Wheres the mongrell we used to have. And Chris Smith can you do anything else but clap your hands after every ruck? and please when you do the after match speech take a tissue.

An idea to get the best players out of the club to play for harbour. Bring back town Vs country trail matches. And choose the top team from that and start putting pressure on the arrogant players we have looking stupid week in week out. Unless we end up in the heartland cup. Which with the way we are playing deserve to be in.

Wake up Harbour, Wake up.

Yours truly
P.C Plod


From: <withheld>@yahoo.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Facts
Date: Fri, September 4, 2009 10:32 pm

We have gone from being one of, if not the most, innovative & exciting (albeit frustrating) sides in NZ provincial rugby - every year since 1985.

We are now the most boring (4 tries from 6 games) & least successful team (5 consecutive losses) in NZ.

How could we fall so quickly from the Ranfurly Shield holding (& 2nd in pool play) team of 2006?

Fact: 2005 & 2006 - won 13 & drawn 1 from 18 games = 13/18 = 72%

Fact: 2007 & 2008 & to date 2009 - won 8 & drawn 2 from 26 games = 8/26 = 31%

Apparently Pollock (love him/hate him Coach 2005/6) applied for this years job, & was judged, along with other similarly qualified candidates, to be inferior (??!) coaches compared to the 2 non-harbour muppets who are supposedly "coaches-in training."

Give me a break!! - Can't the Harbour Board work it out.

They (the Board) made a mistake in sacking Pollock at the end of 2006, then trying to select Tietjens before then ending up with Pivac, & then as the icing on the cake selecting 2 "Coaches" who had never actually coached over actual coaches (& locals) like Anscombe, Larsen, Pollock, Shelford, & Yelavich.

Apologise.

Even better, those Board members involved in Coach selection, resign.

Can't blame the players, they are trying to do the business.

Severely disgruntled Harbour Boy.


From: <withheld>@ihug.co.nz
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Who is to blame?
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009 4:40 pm

Right.. My first for the year.

I waited to give the team/coaches every opportunity to sort their Sh#t out before commenting....

We all celebrated the win against Canterbury... and I must admit that I too was very optimistic about the season ahead... but looking back now, why were we suprised.. we are their bogie team and have caused them trouble every time over the last 5-6 years.

without annalysing the rest of the games..(that can be done by a few words that would make even the chief sensor blush and risk shutting down this site), why are we supprised at the results???? We climbed into the likes of Pivac for dropping a winning side and replacing them with Westlake/rosmini 3rd XV... but has anyone noticed that we are basically playing with the same team that came 2nd to last last year??? all the new coaches have done is put a centre on the wing, a fullback at centre, a 2nd 5 into 1st 5 and a bench warmer at full back.. and we are wondering what's going on???

What the coaches need to do is swallow humble pie (not each other's C%M) and bring back some of the stars of yester-year, Regan Tamehere, Blair Urlich, Roger Dustow, Tony Coglan, Adrian Donald etc and build young players around these experienced players... coz the way Pivac did it (drop every one and start with a combined team cap of 7.5 and avg age of 13), crusified the union and we need to cut our losses and rebuild the right way!!!

Even give one of the best club coach in recent times (Graham Lowe from Massey) a go... instead of paying all our salary cap allowance to 2 guys with NO coaching experience!!

That will do it for now.... see you soon

JD


From: <withheld>@hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Who is to blame?
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009 9:15 am

Another seasn and another group of underacheivers... I actually don't blame the team or the present coaches.......

My blame is with the board of the North Harbour rugby union, those "old farts" who allowed Pivac to wreck the team....it was he who dismantled the sheild winning team, it was he who got rid of almost all the experianced players.

I wrote to Hollister many times commenting on this and was told that the board had full confidence in Pivac and he could do what he liked.......the problem is that they are all running for cover now and accept no responibility.

They are to blame along with Mr Hollister who has a holier than thou attitude toward us the fans and thinks he alone knows what is best ignoring us the fans who know far more.

I dont know how he and the limp board lie straight in bed.....Im suggesting they all take viagara to stop themselves rolling out of bed.

Who decided to put Anthony Tuitavake as captain? He is too nice a guy and I cannot remember him being captain of any team. Just because he is an All Black doesnt mean he can captain.

I know the union were not contracting players before the NPC team was selected...another crazy decision as I know several players left the union because they could get no certainty.

Bring back Slade McFarlene....he could do no worse and was a great impact player for East Coast Bays this year!!!!!......Heard that our hero Dustow is back in town after being at police College and captaining the police team in rugby there......There are several others who would come back if asked Im sure.....

Even though the union were not keen on paying players till they had left the union heard from my usual reliable sources that they are paying Chris Smilie so much that the offer was too good to turn down..........he has hardly played a game since he has been here.....

Thats my gripe except we could be playing heartland rugby next year.......might be a god idea as we would probabaly see better rugby than the crap we are being served at the moment....

Seeing us win a game against Thames Valley might even bring a tear to the eye!!!!

Regards
Ian


From: <withheld>@three.co.uk
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: i'm pretty sure
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009 3:06 am

RE this response to an earlier email of mine:

From: @hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Colin's correction?
Date: Tue, July 7, 2009 2:00 pm

In the 1989 Battle of the Bridge at the "WAH" are you sure it was Walter "God" Little at 1st Five ?

I am sure it was "Prince" Frano Botica Esquire and he owned Grant "One Trick pony " Fox that day !!!

I definitely remember King Buck Shelford completely outplayed Zin-Zan Brooke and totally smashed the Auckland Forward pack all over Onewa Domain, By the way what guys changes His name by Deedpoll from Murray to ZinZan

harbour born and bred !!!

i'm pretty sure it was Walter. Frano was 1st five that season but i'm almost certain he was injured for the 9-9 match (along with Kirwan, who for some reason Aucklanders thought was a bigger loss than Frano was to our cause - eejits). next time i'm home i'll check the programme...

i don't particularly recall Buck outplaying Tim Tam, but given that he always did it would seem a fair bet.

and on to more pressing matters:

  1. good to see another Botica on the teamsheet. let's hope the Dowd, McFarlane, Williams, Jones, Weedon, Larsen, Barry, Turner, Shelford, Strachan, Burton, Woods, God, Bunce, Rush and Osborne families can produce some offspring of their own - 1994 was 15 years ago, some of them should be playing under 19s soon. [i know Buck wasn't 94 vintage but neither was Frano and you can't leave out one of the holy trinity if you mention the other two]
  2. i should probably be thankful that the NZRU is going to decide the 4 teams to be relegated based on more than just results, as it (hopefully) guarantees us first division status. but really that's a poor call. it's not like we're talking about a fully professional competition any more, so why not just let the results speak for themselves? how good would it be to see Auckland relegated? even if we were down there with them, that would be awesome.
  3. Goldie and Dowd The Younger - good luck. you wouldn't have been my first choice, but we've never been shy about imports here on the Shore.

cheers
Colin


From: <withheld>@hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: James Hinchco
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009 7:52 am

I learnt that James Hinchco aint playing for Harbour now and has gone to the Naki ,

I thought I would pay homage to Mr Hinchco with a poem

ode to james hincho
there's a player that we know
and he cant f**king throw
and his name is hinchco

he is pretty fucking bad
his defence is rather sad
and his name is hinchco

he plays for north shore
yet he cant fucking score
and his name is hinchco

yet played for our team
and the fans f**king scream
"who let that clown in our team"

as the story goes
yet they come from near and far
he’s often seen at the bar !!!
like a sonic boom
with his mates at the famous copper room
he might even buy you a "round" or 2
as he drips his beer and pisses on his shoe !!!

but this is all a myth
he aint as bad as that Chris Smith !!!

Now Mr Hinchco's gone
as I pen this song
He may be the reason why our team goes so f**king wrong!!!

harbour born and bred


From: <withheld>@yahoo.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Same Old!!
Date: Tue, July 21, 2009 8:08 pm

Same old same old!

We were all promised fresh selections, fresh faces and a clean out of the previous years crap!

Form and selection was to be based on club form...either we as Harbour supporters are gullible or Harbour doesn’t give two hoots about the loyal Harbour rugby player and followers.

Looking down the ANZC cup team half those players haven’t delivered diddly squat in 2009 club season! And yet, apparently Harbour videoed every Premier game! Must have been filming the girls or the Mum’s on the side compared to the rugby and players I was watching!!

How can the 2 teams playing each other in the Premier club championship only deliver 8 players combined while Massey have 10?

I’d imagine, and don’t get me wrong, that a lot of the 2nd and 3rd string players will look to transfer elsewhere or say know the 2nd XV this year.

And where does this leave club rugby, up the crapper and the great comp that Harbour has (and I’d know having played club footy in 4 Unions) will diminish and turn into another average comp dominated by yet another Takapuna team! Share it around!!

For sure, they might prove me wrong and all the diehards will say the team will be better thanks to last year’s experience!! PLEASE, heard it before!!

Let’s see what front row specialist and Golden Balls bring to the coaching table! I’m picking Golden will throw on some stubbies, score a chip and catch trademark try against Canterbury!! If only dreams came true!!!

Here’s hoping we go into another ANZC campaign full of promise and deliver the potential we have supposedly had for the last 3 years!!

I’m begging you, make the quarters at least!!

It’s a struggle out here being a Harbour supporter!


From: <withheld>@hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: have a laugh at this
Date: Wed, July 8, 2009 2:22 pm

Dear Glenfield rugby club

I am a 47 year old make looking for a club.

I have spent 23 years in an abusive relationship with a psychotic wife who suffered hallucinations every day , Ii was beaten brutally every day for those twenty three years and beaten again and again.

I want to come and play for Glenfield because they beat nobody and I know I will be safe in such an environment with your "zero club championships policy ". I think it’s a bit like "zero fees" at Invercargill polytechnic but that’s only my opinion, and hey I will get to watch the club finals every year when 2 other teams are playing.

I look forward to hearing from you

Love
M
icky


From: <withheld>@hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: Colin's correction?
Date: Tue, July 7, 2009 2:00 pm

In the 1989 Battle of the Bridge at the "WAH" are you sure it was Walter "God" Little at 1st Five ?

I am sure it was "Prince" Frano Botica Esquire and he owned Grant "One Trick pony " Fox that day !!!

I definitely remember King Buck Shelford completely outplayed Zin-Zan Brooke and totally smashed the Auckland Forward pack all over Onewa Domain, By the way what guys changes His name by Deedpoll from Murray to ZinZan

harbour born and bred !!!


From: <withheld>@hotmail.com
To: info@harbourrugby.com
Subject: from Harbour born and bred
Date: Mon, July 6, 2009 7:46 am

Ah well another painful season comes around again just like a nasty dose of the clap , Yet again our beloved Team will start of with all the Potential and enthusiasm in the World only to have our hopes dashed and cruelly crushed just like Guy Ritchie"s nuts after Madonna finished wiv-em!!!

The one thing about Harbour is when we are on our game we are potential world beaters but when we are not we are worst than the Glenfield College First XV when they are having a good season, yet this sort of unpredictability makes us come back every year to the stadium of Echoes to watch the Harbour show drink lots of beer eat craploads of chips and hot dogs that should have Heart Foundation warnings on them and console ourselves miserably as everything goes pear shaped !!!

Finally the Pig has gone , I don’t like Jeff Wilson and still don’t, I think he will be "pants" as a Coach , But "Golden Nuts" prove me wrong ,and I will greatfully eat Humble pie.

Hopefully we wont have to watch the very pitiful James Hinchco this year , He runs like he has drawing pins in his boots and Chris Smith where do we start with Him .

And can some team please beat the crap out of Takapuna this year in the Club Comp , I hate those "Blue and Gold bastards" I wanna see a club that aint won it win it ,I know there is more chance of me shagging Nigella Lawson than Glenfield winning it , I notice on Glenfield"s web page they claim Kawhena Woodman as an All Black? if my memory serves me right He is a Northland legend though?

And definitely not Silverdale , they are hillbilly and hicks with money and marry their sisters and sing a rather gay song about being the Mighty Mighty Dale !!

Well chaps see you at the stadium

best wishes chaps
Harbour born and bred!!!